Epic asked if that was true, and Rasanen said yes, that’s what the spreadsheet shows.

Presenting her with all the numbers, Epic attorney Hueston asks: “The studies we’ve seen show that people buy phones for reasons that are primarily other than the App Store, right?”

She waffles. He presents a new slide titled “Top reasons for smartphone purchase,” a list with maybe a dozen reasons including these top four:

I liked the smartphone brand

My prior smartphone stopped working or slowed down

The price of the smartphone was afffordable

It was a good deal

“Nowhere in that list is the app store identified as a reason for purchasing the smartphone, right?” asks Hueston.

She answers: “The app store, no.”